• Occ-Cast Episode 4 featuring Kieren Perrow

WSL Commissioner and former CT athlete Kieren Perrow sits down with Occy to talk big wave surfing, the pain of making a critical mistake in a heat and how Kieren balances the pressures of running the WSL and being a good father.

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Prefer to read the interview? We've got a full transcript below -